The Seven Seals, Trumpets, and Bowls

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| Seal 1 | Seal 2 | Seal 3 | Seal 4 | Seal 5 | Seal 6 | Seal 7 |
Wrath of God:
| Trumpet 1 | Trumpet 2 | Trumpet 3 | Trumpet 4 | Trumpet 5 | Trumpet 6 | Trumpet 7 |
| Bowl 1 | Bowl 2 | Bowl 3 | Bowl 4 | Bowl 5 | Bowl 6 | Bowl 7 |

Sequence of the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls

Before getting into the study, I would like to quickly go over the sequence for the seals, trumpets, and bowls. It may be premature if you haven’t studied this aspect of Bible prophecy before, but I think it explains the sequence of presentation here. The Bible should interpret itself. So as to the timing of the seals, trumpets and bowls, let me share some of my studies on this. You can click on the links above to jump to a particular part of this study.

Transition from seals to trumpets:

Revelation 8:1,2
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.

I believe this is pretty clear evidence that the trumpets don’t happen until after all seven seals are opened, since the angels aren’t even given their trumpets until after the seventh seal. Even then, they do not blow them until the angel casts the censer to the earth after the seventh seal.

Transition from the trumpets to the bowls:

Revelation 11:15
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

We see here that the seventh angel is sounded in Revelation 11. Notice this detail about the seventh trumpet...

Revelation 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

This tells us that the seventh trumpet isn’t a quick toot, but a blast which lasts for days. Keeping that in mind, lets examine when the trumpet sounds.

Revelation 11:15
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Several chapters later in Revelation, we see the angels get their bowls.

Revelation 15:1; 5-8
And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God...

...And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

So the angels weren’t even given these bowls until after the seventh angel began to sound and these bowl judgments are specifically labeled as the seven last plagues that fill up the wrath of God. Notice how all seven of these bowls are poured out in one chapter and in pretty short and to the point ways. I believe this gives the impression of increased frequency. In fact, I believe that these bowls are all poured out during the days of the voice of the seventh trumpet. And finally, at the seventh bowl...

Revelation 16:17
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Here’s how I believe it looks laid out in a timeline. Notice the increase in intensity and frequency.

Christ breaks seals on scroll Wrath of God written on the scroll
Seals: Trumpets:
1[white horse] 1[1/3 trees]
2[red horse] 2[1/3 sea]
3[black horse] 3[1/3 waters wormwood]
4[pale (green) horse] 4[1/3 sun/moon/stars]
5[souls under altar] 5[abaddon from pit] 1st Woe
6[sun/moon/star event] 6[euphrates angels] 2nd Woe
7[silence ½ hour] 7[days of voice | kingdoms are Lord’s] 3rd Woe
  Bowls/Vials: All are part of the 3rd Woe
  1[mark of beast sore]
  2[sea blood]
  3[rivers water blood]
  4[scorching sun]
  5[seat of the beast]
  6[kings of east & gathering to Armageddon]
  7[it is done.]

The Scroll & Seven Seals

Before I get into the details, we must define what the seals are all about.

Revelation 5:1-10
And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a scroll written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the scroll, and to loose the seals thereof? And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the scroll, neither to look thereon. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the scroll, neither to look thereon. And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the scroll, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the scroll out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. And when he had taken the scroll, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the scroll, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Commentary from on the scroll, seals and what they mean:

Book written inside and on the back - There are probably as many questions about this phrase as there are letters that compose it. However, the questions can be grouped under three headings: (a) function, (b) content, and (c) form. Of the three, function is the easiest question to answer.

a. Function: First, a sequential nature is established. With the seven seals, the author indicates the seals are opened one after another. This format will be repeated in relation to the trumpets and bowl judgments that follow. The book is built around these three sequences. Second, Christ, who is uniquely able to break the seven seals, is clearly established as a sovereign who executes the will of the One seated on the throne—God, the Father. The Father has willed that the Son oversees its execution. John 5:22,27 and Acts 10:42 indicate that Jesus is Judge of all. This is the central purpose of the Revelation: to reveal the Son’s execution of the Father’s judgment against both the living and the dead. This naturally leads to the question of content.

b. Content: Once it is accepted that the seven seals are not a part of the contents of the scroll, but in fact are conditions to its opening, the reader is able to discern two things. First, John does not explicitly indicate what is contained in the scroll. However, with the breaking of the seventh and final seal, the first direct attack against the earth begins in the form of a trumpet judgment. That the trumpets are judgments of God will be detailed later. Second, since Revelation 8-20 contains the judgment of God against wickedness, the scroll must contain the eschatological judgment of God, else the contents of the scroll are never disclosed. This seems highly unlikely given the importance of the scroll indicated in Revelation 5. Ezekiel 2:9-10 speaks of a scroll similar to Revelation 5. Ezekiel’s scroll contained “lamentations, mourning, and woe.” All three terms are associated with disaster. All three express deep grief on the part of the afflicted.

c. Form: The exact form of the scroll is debated. However, taken at face value several points are obvious. First, the basic book form during John’s time was the scroll. The fact that all seven seals were visible argues for a scroll. The fact that the contents of the scroll could not be known until it was opened argues for a rolled up scroll. There is no historical evidence of a sealed scroll within a sealed scroll.

Sealed up with seven seals - There is historical evidence of scrolls containing seven seals. In both the Jewish and Roman worlds, seven sealed scrolls were very common. Specifically, Roman law mandated that wills be validated by the seals of five or seven witnesses. Jewish magic also employed the motif of seven seals.

The Seven Sealed Scroll (Broken Link)

The Greek word for book here is biblion which is not referring to a book as we know it today. It was a scroll. A scroll was made up of a long piece of papyrus or treated animal skin (parchment) and rolled up from both ends. Scrolls of those days averaged about 15 feet in length. John informs us that it had writing on both sides. “It was common in the first century for a person in authority to seal an important document so that its contents would remain secret. Roman law required a last will and testament to be sealed seven times, as illustrated in the wills of Caesar Augustus and Emperor Vespasian.”215 “Such documents were sealed with wax or clay and could be opened only by a qualified person.”216 “This kind of contract was known all over the Middle East in ancient times and was used by the Romans from the time of Nero on.

The full contract would be written on the inner pages and described briefly on the outside. All kinds of transactions were consummated this way, including marriage-contracts, rental and lease agreements, release of slaves, contract-bills, and bonds. Support comes also from Hebrew practices. The Hebrew document most closely resembling this scroll was a title-deed that was folded and signed, requiring at least three witnesses. A portion of the text would be written, folded over and sealed, with a different witness signing at each fold. A larger number of witnesses meant that more importance was assigned to the document.”217

The scroll John saw in god’s hand is the title deed to the earth which He will give to Christ. Unlike other such deeds, however, it does not record the descriptive detail of what Christ will inherit, but rather how He will regain His rightful inheritance. He will do so by means of the divine judgments about to be poured out on the earth. (Revelation 6:12)

Ezekiel describes this same scroll in his vision of heaven: ‘Then I looked, and behold, a hand was extended to me; and lo, a scroll was in it. When He spread it out before me, it was written on the front and back, and written on it were lamentations, mourning and woe’ (Ezekiel 2:8-10).218 “It reveals the judgments of God to be poured out on the earth, Christ’s Second Coming to rightfully inherit and implement the title deed of redemption to planet Earth, and His righteous rule in the Millennial Kingdom.219

The scroll cannot be opened without opening the seven seals that are on the scroll and only Yeshua (Jesus) is worthy to open the seals. I believe the reason it is so important is that the end cannot come until the scroll foretelling the end is read. I believe John wept because he understood that it must be opened to fulfill prophecy and the second coming of Christ to take the kingdoms. It highlights the importance of the Lamb, Yeshua.

What is on the scroll? Given the progression of events through Revelation from the seals to the trumpets to the bowls, I believe the scroll has written on it the righteous judgments of the wrath of God, the 7 trumpets 7 thunders and 7 bowls, that will come upon the earth culminating like birth pangs closer and more intense toward the end. I believe scripture backs up this idea of the judgments of the seven trumpets and seven bowls being what is written on the scroll.

Ezekiel 2
And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee. And the spirit entered into me when he spake unto me, and set me upon my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me. And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day. For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD. And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they are a rebellious house,) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them. And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house. And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious. But thou, son of man, hear what I say unto thee; Be not thou rebellious like that rebellious house: open thy mouth, and eat that I give thee. And when I looked, behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein; And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe.

Zechariah 5
Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll [scroll]. And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it. I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.

I shared this progression at the top of this page from Revelation 8:1,2 where the seven angels are given seven trumpets only after the 7th seal is opened. There is also only ½ hour time from the 6th seal, where the terrified people of earth recognize God’s wrath, until all the seals are opened and the scroll can be read. The trumpets and bowls are delivered from heaven upon the earth. They are outside of man’s or Satan’s control.

Why would God have to open the scroll to begin His judgments? I believe that just like this 7,000 years of history will be a testimony of God’s immense love for all eternity, so too is the scroll a witness of God being outside of created time such that before anything was begun, even His plan of salvation, the end was known, and the judgments written. All creation will recognize those judgments as just and glorify God. It will be yet another eternal proof of God’s all-knowing presence.

Do the seals match the pre-signs Christ spoke of?

This idea was brought up by someone on a board, but I forgot to get the background links and now can’t find them. I did modify the original version to fit what I’ve learned from my studies and add my personal impressions in this format. I don’t know if this relation is valid, but it is very interesting and worth mentioning. If it is true, then it’s an interesting side note. If it isn’t true, then it’s looking too deep into something that isn’t there. Either way I don’t believe this harms one’s understanding. I mention it here in the interest of sharing what I’ve come across, which is what this whole website is about. Sharing information with fellow watchmen during the last days before Christ’s return.

Christ speaking the Olivet discourse
Matthew 24:4-29
  John seeing the seals in a vision
Revelation 6:1-17; 8:1-6

Matthew 24:4-5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.


Revelation 6:1-2
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Matthew 24:6-7a
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
  Revelation 6:3-4
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Matthew 24:7b-8
and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.
  Revelation 6:5-6
And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Matthew 24:9-14
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
  Revelation 6:7-8
And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
[The end is from the great tribulation to Christ’s return and begins at the abomination of desolation.]   [The end is from the great tribulation to Christ’s return and begins at the abomination of desolation.]

Matthew 24:15-28
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

  Revelation 6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

[These fellowservants are those who will be killed before the harpazo of the bride of Christ. When the harpazo happens, all the dead in Christ rise first and then we who are alive and remain join them to meet the Lord in the air. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 This is the harpazo of the bride of Christ.

As Christians, we should not be deceived by false Christs who come with signs and wonders because we know how the True Christ, Yeshua will come and how we will meet Him. We don’t need to go anywhere because we will have a personal relationship with Him and He will do the calling of us up to Him at the harpazo. All we need to do is watch, pray, and share the love of God with those around us waiting for that blessed hope to save us from the wrath to come.]

Matthew 24:29a
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven,
  Revelation 6:12-17
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Revelation 8:1
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

[The day of the Lord comes as a destruction from the Almighty. Isaiah 13:6-13 It also comes after the sixth seal according to Joel 2:31 This is the time we are told comes like a thief in the night, 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11, and is likened to the days of Noah and Lot. This is also describing the coming of the Son of man. Matthew 24:37-39 I don’t believe this is an accident and so I believe it is at this time of the day of the Lord and His wrath, that Christ comes to harpazo His bride. But since we’re not appointed to God’s wrath, our escape will be in His catching away of His bride to Himself and the marriage of the Lamb. Luke 21:34-36 | Revelation 19:7-8]   [God’s wrath comes after the seals are completed. Does the fact that the people of earth recognize God’s coming wrath at the sixth seal mean His wrath comes before the seals are done? The seventh seal is just ½ hour of silence in heaven so this is still valid because ½ hour could mean that the trumpets blow that same day. This is the day of the Lord, which comes as a destruction from the Almighty. Isaiah 13:6-13 We’re told that it comes like the days of Noah and that is when the Son of man comes. Matthew 24:37-39]
Matthew 24:29b
and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

[This one phrase covers the entire scope of the wrath of God, which Christ didn’t go into detail about at that time. The detail was given to John through visions which he wrote down in the book of Revelation regarding the 7 trumpets, 7 thunders, and 7 bowls discussed in this page.]

  Revelation 8:2-6
And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

So the seals that are broken by Christ off of the double-sided scroll that has the judgments of God written on them are completed before God’s wrath comes. The trumpets, thunders, and bowls in Revelation 8 through Revelation 16 contain the details of the coming judgments which Christ did not go into in the Olivet discourse. When Christ described the end, He just used the term “the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Isaiah 13:6-13
Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man’s heart shall melt: And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames. Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
If you do a search on the word “shaken” through the entire Bible, you will see it shows up 22 times in 21 verses and in 7 mentions, it is suggestive of wrath or judgment of some kind.

I believe this shows the same progression that Christ spoke of in the lead-up to the abomination of desolation, the beginning of the last 3½ years of the end leading to the 1,000 year millennium. So the seven seals’ purpose is to seal the scroll written on both sides, which contains the judgments of the earth, the seven trumpets, seven thunders, and seven bowls. With this understanding, let us examine what the seals, trumpets, and bowls represent and what their breaking, blowing, and pouring will bring to pass.

Seal 1 (White horse)

Revelation 6:1,2
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

  • Rider has a bowG5115 (from base G5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): - bow.
    [G5088 is: to produce (from seed) literal or figurative: bear, to be born, bring forth, be delivered, be in travail])
  • A crownG4735 (as a badge of royalty) is given to him.
  • He spreads out conquering victoriously overcoming his enemies.

Possible interpretation?

The following possibility of the European Neighborhood Policy Instrument (ENPI), making the assumption that the first seal marks the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel, will be proven incorrect if the abomination of desolation doesn’t take place around May of 2010.

In looking for other scriptures speaking of a bow, the first to show up had some interesting correlations to the possibilities that follow.

Genesis 9:13
I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

God sets His bowH7198 in the clouds (From H7185 in the original sense (of H6983) of bending; a bow, for shooting (hence figuratively strength) or the iris: - X arch (-er), + arrow, bow ([-man, -shot]) [H7185 is: to be dense, i.e. tough or severe (in various applications):--be cruel, be fiercer, make grievous, be ((ask a), be in, have, seem, would) hard(-en, (labour), -ly, thing), be sore, (be, make) stiff(-en, (-necked))] [H6983 is: to bend; used only as denominative for 3369, to set a trap:--lay a snare.])

I believe the base word for “bow” in the Greek gives us greater insight into what is being said here. I believe the antichrist brings forth a deal, the “covenant with many” (Daniel 9:27) that works so well that all the kings give him their power. He goes out victoriously overcoming his enemies, the terrorists and those viewed as terrorists. In other words, this would be the antichrist producing an apparent peace covenant that has the affect of stopping terrorism, which leads the world to give him a crown. Revelation 13:1-10

Daniel 8:25
And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace [H7962-quietness, ease, prosperity] shall destroy [H7843-to destroy, corrupt, go to ruin, decay] many he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
The above was written about Antiochus IV Epiphanes. However, the same spirit of antichrist is behind the future man of sin. I believe this tells of the coming war on religious fundamentalism. While spouting the reason being peace and security in the world, the leaders (and specifically the antichrist) will wage a war on fundamentalism in the name of peace. In this way he will destroy the fundamentalists and also corrupt his followers. Everyone will be behind him because they will buy into the concept. I think the Alliance of Civilizations will play a part. It isn’t until after the abomination of desolation that the war really turns ugly though. Because that’s when the gloves come off and Lucifer gives his power to the beast.

Madrid: Fifteen Years Later Herb L. Peters (January 12, 2007) - What follows is a speech given at the recent Madrid+15 Conference. If you read carefully, and if you understand the underlying political mechanisms and realities, you will find all the necessary elements in place for the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week. And, you will hear it coming from someone other than me. In fact, you will actually hear it coming from a primary source. What we have is a formally signed, legally binding covenant with many -- the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership for Peace (Euromed) -- that was established between the EU and Israel in November 20, 1995. Israel’s Euromed Association Agreement entered into force on June 1, 2000, only four days before the 10-nation Western European Union’s adoption of Recommendation 666. Israel’s European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP) Action Plan was adopted April 11, 2004. Although not legally binding, Israel’s continuing cooperation to her ENP Action Plan is the basis for future continuing participation in all ENP benefits. As of January 1, 2007, the “New” ENP began and will span a seven-year period. At the EU’s December European Council, the EU’s Javier Solana, the author of both the Euromed and the ENP, received his unofficial seat within the Commission to oversee the ENP. At the same summit, Solana was given his official EU mandate to carry the Middle East peace process foreword. As of January 1, the New ENP has greatly increased benefits for all participating Mediterranean partners. But, it also has substantially increased political requirements -- one of which is to make peace with fellow Euromed partners. Included in this mix is the UN’s new Alliance of Civilizations (AoC). The AoC provides the forum whereby the so-called “dialogue of cultures and civilizations” can be performed. If approved by the Security Council, the AoC will also provide a vehicle from where a religious war, exactly as the one foretold in Bible prophecy, can be -- as of 2010 -- effectively waged. As you read the speech that follows, please consider all the things, since way back in February 2002, that I’ve been reporting and saying. -Herb more...

What’s interesting about this current time and this rider given a crown is how the world is at a loss with what to do with the Middle East. World leaders are talking peace and security, using the same words Bible prophecy does. And it all centers around Israel and her land. This is because of Islam’s terrorists, spurred on by their prophet’s writings. And on a darker revelation of the New World Order and those secret societies behind it, we see that this was all part of the plan to bring the world to accept a future leader who will provide the peace and security the world desires.

Javier Solana’s “New International Order” Fulfilled Prophecy (September 22, 2007)

I found Bush’s choice of words (as well as many leaders in the world trying to “solve” the Middle East problem) interesting. The goal right now for the whole world is to see peace and security with Israel and “Palestine.”

The United Nations has imposed sanctions on Iran, and made it clear that the world will not allow the regime in Tehran to acquire nuclear weapons. (Applause.) With the other members of the Quartet -- the U.N., the European Union, and Russia -- we’re pursuing diplomacy to help bring peace to the Holy Land, and pursuing the establishment of a democratic Palestinian state living side-by-side with Israel in peace and security. (Applause.)” | President George Bush, excerpt from the state of the union address January 23, 2007

Nobody will be expecting the wrath of God when it comes except those who are watching and praying.

1 Thessalonians 5:1-4
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety [G803 -security]; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

There are two groups spoken of here.

  1. They (non-believers)
  2. Brethren (believers)

Group 1 will have no idea what’s coming until the sudden destruction arrives and they won’t escape it.

Group 2 won’t be in darkness as to this time that comes like a thief. We also know from other scriptures that we will escape it. Luke 21:34-36 In other words, believers will have an idea it’s coming. This tells us that believers are here for this time just before the sudden destruction, but will escape the actual destruction.

National Interests and European Foreign Policy Council of the European Union - Javier Solana (October 7, 2008) - I would like to thank the Stiftung Wissenschaft und Politik for convening this conference. It follows a good tradition. For many years it has hosted the NATO Review Conference. As NATO General Secretary I valued these intense political brainstormings. It is timely to launch a similar exercise for our Common Foreign and Security Policy.

Next year, it will be ten years since the Kosovo crisis, which played a fundamental role in the creation of the European Security and Defence Policy. The European Security Strategy will see its 5th anniversary in December. So this is a good moment to look back. But even more to think about the future. I hope and expect this conference to contribute to tangible progress in the evolution of Europe’s global role.

At the request of the organisers, my intervention will focus on the question of national interests and how they relate to building a common European foreign policy. This is not an easy topic. These days, when debating foreign policy, the concept of “national interest” can seem outmoded and unattractive. In both public opinion and specialist circles, we tend to associate the idea with the cynical pursuit of self-interest.

Take historical figures like Machiavelli: “it is far safer to be feared than loved.” Or Lord Palmerston: “my country has no permanent friends, only permanent interests.” We like to think diplomats have moved beyond that kind of thinking in the twenty-first century.

In the European context this feeling becomes stronger. European integration has been built on compromises. So a ruthless pursuit of national interests sits ill with the European method of consensus-building. But are national interests and European foreign policy therefore incompatible?

It would be tempting to say yes. But that would miss an important point. For I think the relationship
is more complex. Properly defined, national interests have a place in European policy-making, What has changed in Europe is how people define their interests and, even more, the structure in which they pursue them.

The point is not that we have abolished national interests in the European Union. Rather, the point is that we agree that the best way to safeguard these interests is by working together. Moreover, working together helps to create and identify common European interests. So, it is a two-way street. This is a fundamental truth, which bears repeating.

To avoid any misunderstanding: values matter as much as interests. A foreign policy which is not informed by our values is neither possible nor acceptable. This very much applies to the European Union. Values are at the core of our external actions and an expression of our collective identity. We promote them because of who we are. But also because it is in our interest to do so.

This explains why the European approach to international relations is characterised by the primacy of international law; the search for consensual solutions; and a commitment to making multilateral institutions effective. This is the European way. What we do abroad is shaped by who we are. Not only is this approach right. It is also very effective, as the history of Europe over the last fifty years demonstrates.

There is another aspect to all this. The very concept of national interest has changed in our globalised world. In a nutshell: interests have gone global. We face common problems. You all know the list: terrorism, climate change and energy security, proliferation, organised crime, failing states. These are complex and interconnected problems. They defy simple solutions.

No country acting alone can solve them. So, national and collective interests are linked. You cannot pursue one at the expense of the other. Of course there will always be differences of emphasis, based on history, geography and the electoral cycle. We should be aware of these differences - and discuss how they can be overcome. But the collective, common interest is clear. Global and complex issues require global answers.

So much for the theory. How to do it in practice, in a Union of 27 member-states? By working hard every day. I believe it is possible, because there is such a thing as common European interests. Let me try to explain.

First, I believe it is an interest in itself for the 27 Member states to build unity. Unity is the best way to be heard in a globalised world. Unity is a precondition for Europe to be effective. In turn, being effective helps with creating unity, as the Balkan and Georgia conflicts have shown.

Second, there is the inter-connected nature of the threats that we face, as I mentioned earlier. We have a common interest in addressing complex threats, diplomatically and through collective action on the ground. What is stated in principle must be demonstrated in practice. And Europe is doing just that, tackling crises in our neighbourhood and beyond.

Let me mention some examples which seem of special relevance.

The Iran nuclear issue is a case in point. The importance of the Iranian issue cannot be over-stated. At stake is nothing less than the treaty-based system of non-proliferation. Europe’s role has been central. We have been at the forefront of international efforts to solve this sensitive and complex issue, working through the multilateral system. It is consistent with the objectives, interests and values we uphold. We hope for success, but know that it will require cooperation of many actors, first of all Iran.

Or take the Western Balkans. The scale of the EU commitment to putting that region on a path of sustainable peace, reconciliation and growth is unprecedented. From Bosnia Herzegovina to Kosovo, from Serbia to FYROM Europe is seen as an indispensable anchor of stability and development.

Europe is committed to the Balkans for good reasons. This is an area of strategic importance. And our engagement has made the difference, even in very sensitive issues like relations with Kosovo and Serbia. I do not deny or downplay the challenge that was posed by Kosovo’s independence - including among EU Member States. But we delivered.

The Union agreed on a common interest in ensuring stability and security in Kosovo, and deployed the EULEX mission to achieve that aim. We were right. Since February, we have seen positive trends in both Kosovo and Serbia, with the EULEX mission gradually deploying and a pro-European political constellation in Belgrade.

All this would have been impossible without the impulse and political initiative from the European Union - and especially the incentive of the European perspective. Compare this situation to the mid- 1990s. The progress we have made is remarkable.

Then there is Georgia. The initiatives taken by the European Union, under the leadership of the French Presidency, were key to preventing further dangerous escalation. It is too early for final judgements at this stage. But over the last two months the EU has been crucial to establishing a path through the crisis, and providing the means, with the EU Monitoring Mission to doing so.

Let me conclude. National interests and European foreign policy have to be linked. But it should be clear that in a globalised world, national interests can best be achieved through collective action. European foreign policy is work in progress. We all know that we can and should improve the efficiency of our decision-making and the effectiveness of our actions. But perhaps paradoxically, the Georgian crisis gives me hope. It showed that strong political will and good co-ordination between the institutions and Member States is critical. And that it can be forthcoming when we need it.

Now we need to ensure that the same conditions will be there in the future. The Treaty of Lisbon will be a central part of delivering that. A swift entry into force of that Treaty is clearly in our common interest.

Dear friends, The world today is more complex and interconnected. Our approach of bringing together member states into collective positions which are stronger than the sum of their parts, is the only realistic response. It is in our interest to continue on this path. Thank you very much.

Europe is being set up as the model for which the rest of the world should follow suit in working together and better integrating to make a better world. It sounds great, but as we’ve seen historically the leaders with the power misuse it to the detriment of the people and according to Bible prophecy, the ultimate incarnation of this will be seen in the man of sin who will rise to power from the revived Roman Empire and from among 10 kings to gain global influence and eventually control the world by his policies. See chart Just a quick review, the man delivering this “intervention” has held and holds the following positions:

Ever heard of him? So could this really be coming to pass now under the radar of the world and even Christians? As the financial collapse helps push international cooperation along with business deals (shipping jobs and manufacturing overseas) and the war on terror, are we being smoothly nudged into the New Age that’s been talked about for many years? Considering all the signs from many angles, I’ve only been more convinced as time goes on that we indeed are at that point in the history of mankind as foretold in the Bible. Keep watching and praying!

Seal 2 (Red G4450 [flame-colored] Horse)

Revelation 6:3,4
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

Rider is allowed to take peace G1515 (implied prosperity; rest or quietness) from the earth.

This also initiates them [people] to kill G4969 each other (butcher: especially an animal for food or sacrifice) Implied amongst themselves, not an outside force killing them.

Was given the rider a great G3173 sword G3162

(great - loud, mighty, strong)
(sword - [possibly derivative of G3163: battle, figurative: controversy] figurative: war, judicial punishment)

Possible interpretation?

Yeshua is the one who breaks the seal. The first seal is a rider with a token of a covenant going forth conquering. If this is representative of the current international cooperation to bring peace in the Middle East and uniting in the war on terror, then the second seal would be an interruption in the peace and reason to further the removal of freedoms in the name of peace and security. Could the destruction of Damascus triggering the Gog/Magog invasion and possible global terrorist attacks be the peace taken from the earth?

America’s border has been open for some time now allowing unchecked access in an area run by drug lords. How many of these unchecked people from anywhere in the world could have already entered into the nation with destructive intentions? Islam is known for its use of the sword and so I tend to believe they will react against their enemies, the “great Satan and little Satan” (US and Israel), with terrorism and the Magog invasion respectively. Israel will be protected from the invaders, America and the West I’m not so sure about. I believe humanity’s enemy is behind both sides of this war, provoking each other to bring the chaos from which the blind will seek salvation from. I question the leaving open of our border given the supposed heightened concern for security from terrorists and considering what I’ve learned of the history of America’s leadership, the possible reasons become much more clear. Is this all part of the plan to conquer in the name of peace and security?

Emergency powers have been given to our President as well as Mr. Europe. Could this taking away of peace be the means to tighten security in ways like national ID? National ID? How about a global ID? Info World (August 10, 2007) Papers please.” How quickly could this turn into the mark of the beast? With tattoo ink RFID and readers becoming a part of daily commerce, could it really be that close? And could identity thieves and emergencies and disasters mixed with economic collapse bring us to this cashless society suddenly?

Seal 3 (Black Horse)

Revelation 6:5,6
And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Rider has pair of balancesG2218 in his hand. (to join [especially by “yoke”], coupling, servitude [a law or obligation] literally: the beam of the balance [connecting the scales])

A voice from the midst of the four beasts at the throne in heaven says:
measure of wheat for a penny, three measures of barley for a penny; and hurt not the oil and the wine.

Possible interpretation?

A time of financial ruin around the world where oil (fuel?) and intoxicating wine (selfish pleasure) dominate the thoughts and desires of the populous? I believe we’re seeing an entitlement mentality being used with a “Cloward & Piven strategy” that will collapse the system so that it can ultimately reset into a new system, the whole phoenix rising out of the ashes concept. If confidence in capitalism is destroyed, the socialistic alternative can be presented.

Interestingly, this further seems to fit with both the face of the idea of a pair of balances in the rider’s hand and also the idea of a yoke, coupling and servitude. On the face of it, the idea behind the socialism being pushed is to balance out the “haves” and “have nots.” By redistributing wealth through the various means such as taxes and ideas such as cap and trade to “save the environment,” while providing free programs and welfare and aid to the third world, the balances even things out more. I believe this

Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.

The idea of coupling, servitude and the yoke can be seen in the recent government bailouts and the stake that was taken in these banks and companies by the government in further regulation and taxes for repayment of what was lent to them. As the system continues to be brought down, the taxpayer is ultimately who must pay for it and our nation is becoming the borrower that is servant to the lender. Just look at the US debt clock.

Norm Franz goes into this perspective in the Ancient of Days UFO & Bible Prophecy DVD (Disc 2 of 2). His presentation is called, Iron Mountain, Globalism, & Economics of the New World Order. His position is that the third seal is a world-wide economic collapse that creates a world of indentured slaves to the bankers that they can’t pay back. He believes the antichrist may offer a relieving of all debts in exchange for taking his mark and becoming part of his governmental system by taking the mark of the beast. Read some news stories related to this view here. A crippling terrorist attack in the already unstable global financial situation could prepare the way for the mark of the beast cashless system.

Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


We could also see a coming world-wide famine resulting from the combined economic collapse and some interesting stories that could lead to famine.

  • Food crisis looms in East Africa BBC News (July 22, 2008) - More than 14 million people in the Horn of Africa need food aid because of drought and rocketing food and fuel prices, the United Nations has warned. The UN World Food Programme says it urgently needs $400m (£200m) to prevent starvation in the east African region. Ethiopia is worst hit, with 10 million people - some 12% of the population - in need of extra food supplies. more...
  • World Bank: Biofuels lift food prices 75 percent C|net News (July 7, 2008) - Demand for biofuels in Europe and the United States has forced up food prices 75 percent around the world, according to a World Bank report that was leaked and published in The Guardian newspaper on Friday. The number stands in sharp contrast to the 3 percent contribution to higher food pricing estimated by the United States Department of Agriculture. Meanwhile, a study commissioned by food manufacturers pegs the contribution of biofuels on food prices at between 25 percent and 35 percent. (Click here for PDF). more...
  • The Truth About Ethanol Steve Quayle (June 26, 2008) - OPEC sells oil for $135.00 a barrel. OPEC nations buy U.S. grain at $8.00 a bushel. Solution: Sell grain for $135.00 a bushel. Can’t buy it? Tough! Eat your oil! (See image at link.)
  • 2008 ICA McAlvany Report Don McAlvany - This is a video series on YouTube that I’ve placed together in order on the page linked above covering the current financial situation and its controlled nature. I recommend watching it for a better idea of what is going on in detail.
  • Rising Prices: Food Slammed on all Sides Steve Quayle (April 30, 2008) - An image showing the cause and effects of several factors contributing to current global food shortages.
  • Honey Bees, Ethanol, Morgellons & Strange Lights Coast To Coast AM (April 24, 2008) - Listen to a clip from the interview with Linda Moulton Howe regarding decreasing bee population and ethanol problems relating to food shortages.
  • Across globe, hunger brings rising anger International Herald Tribune (April 18, 2008) - Hunger bashed in the front gate of Haiti’s presidential palace. Hunger poured onto the streets, burning tires and taking on soldiers and the police. Hunger sent the country’s prime minister packing. Haiti’s hunger, that burn in the belly that so many here feel, has become fiercer than ever in recent days as global food prices spiral out of reach, spiking as much as 45 percent since the end of 2006 and turning Haitian staples like beans, corn and rice into closely guarded treasures. Saint Louis Meriska’s children ate two spoonfuls of rice apiece as their only meal recently and then went without any food the following day. His eyes downcast, his own stomach empty, the unemployed father said forlornly, “They look at me and say, ’Papa, I’m hungry,’ and I have to look away. It’s humiliating and it makes you angry.” That anger is palpable across the globe. The food crisis is not only being felt among the poor but is also eroding the gains of the working and middle classes, sowing volatile levels of discontent and putting new pressures on fragile governments.
  • Bees ’killed by mobile phone signals’ Telegraph UK (April 16, 2008) - An unusually high number of honey bee deaths in Britain this year may be caused by radiation from mobile phone signals, say experts. British beekeepers have called for further research following the release of a German study showing that radiation can interfere with bees’ navigation systems. In some cases, 70 per cent of bees exposed to radiation failed to find their way back to the hive after searching for pollen and nectar, according to the research by Landau University. The researchers placed cordless-phone docking units, which emit electromagnetic radiation, into bee hives. Bee experts are struggling to determine the cause of colony collapse disorder (CCD), a mystery condition in which bees suddenly abandon their hives and disappear to die. In America, 24 states are affected and losses of 50 to 90 per cent of colonies have been recorded. CCD recently spread to Poland, Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal and last week some keepers in Britain reported losses exceeding the 10 per cent of colonies that usually die during winter. John Chapple, one of London’s foremost beekeepers, said 30 of his 40 hives were empty and that other hives around London had lost up to 75 per cent of their bees. If CCD does take hold in Britain it could have far-reaching implications for farming, as bees pollinate millions of hectares of fruit trees and crops. The pollination is worth £200 million to Britain’s farmers each year. The total contribution by bees to the economy is worth up to £1 billion. Brian Dennis, of the Bee Improvement and Bee Breeding Association, said: “There is so much being said about CCD in America and [radiation] hasn’t been mentioned. “Until someone does a large study, it is hard to be sure.”
  • EU defends biofuel goals amid food crises AFP (April 14, 2008) - The EU Commission on Monday rejected claims that producing biofuels is a “crime against humanity” that threatens food supplies, and vowed to stick to its goals as part of a climate change package. “There is no question for now of suspending the target fixed for biofuels,” said Barbara Helfferich, spokeswoman for EU Environment Commissioner Stavros Dimas. “You can’t change a political objective without risking a debate on all the other objectives,” which could see the EU landmark climate change and energy package disintegrate, an EU official said. Their comments came amid growing unease over the planting of biofuel crops as food prices rocket and riots against poverty and hunger multiply worldwide. UN Special Rapporteur for the Right to Food Jean Ziegler told German radio Monday that the production of biofuels is “a crime against humanity” because of its impact on global food prices. EU leaders, seeking to show the way on global warming, have pledged to reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 20 percent by 2020. As part of a package of measures the 27 member states have set a target of biofuels making up 10 percent of automobile fuel by the same year. “We don’t have an enormous danger of too much of a shift from food production to biofuels production,” said Michael Mann, spokesman for EU Agriculture Commissioner Mariann Fischer Boel. Mann, like Helfferich speaking to reporters in Brussels, stressed that the 10 percent target would in part be achieved through higher yields and increased production. Ziegler also accused the European Union of subsidising its agriculture exports with effect of undermining production in Africa. “The EU finances the exports of European agricultural surpluses to Africa ... where they are offered at one half or one third of their (production) price,” the UN official charged. “That completely ruins African agriculture,” he added. In recent months, rising food costs have sparked violent protests in Cameroon, Egypt, Ethiopia, Haiti, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Madagascar, Mauritania, the Philippines and other countries. In Pakistan and Thailand, troops have been deployed to avoid the seizure of food from fields and warehouses, while price increases fuelled a general strike in Burkina Faso. The European Environment Agency, advisors to the European Commission, on Friday recommended that the EU suspend its 10 percent biofuels target. more...
  • Food price rises threaten global security - UN Guardian UK (April 9, 2008) - Rising food prices could spark worldwide unrest and threaten political stability, the UN’s top humanitarian official warned yesterday after two days of rioting in Egypt over the doubling of prices of basic foods in a year and protests in other parts of the world. Sir John Holmes, undersecretary general for humanitarian affairs and the UN’s emergency relief coordinator, told a conference in Dubai that escalating prices would trigger protests and riots in vulnerable nations. He said food scarcity and soaring fuel prices would compound the damaging effects of global warming. Prices have risen 40% on average globally since last summer. “The security implications [of the food crisis] should also not be underestimated as food riots are already being reported across the globe,” Holmes said. “Current food price trends are likely to increase sharply both the incidence and depth of food insecurity.” He added that the biggest challenge to humanitarian work is climate change, which has doubled the number of disasters from an average of 200 a year to 400 a year in the past two decades. more...
  • Rice Jumps to Record on Philippine Imports, Curbs on Exports Bloomberg (April 8, 2008) - Rice climbed to a record for a fourth day as the Philippines, the biggest importer, announced plans to buy 1 million tons and some of the world’s largest exporters cut sales to ensure they can feed their own people. Rice, the staple food for half the world, rose as much as 2.9 percent to $21.60 per 100 pounds in Chicago, before paring gains. The price has doubled in the past year. Philippine President Gloria Arroyo announced two rice tenders today and pledged to crack down on hoarding. Anyone found guilty of “stealing rice from the people’’ will be jailed, she said. “We’re in for a tough time,’’ Roland Jansen, chief executive officer of Pfaffikon, Switzerland-based Mother Earth Investments AG, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television from Zurich today. Unless prices decline, “you will have huge problems of daily nutrition for half the planet.’’ Mother Earth holds about 4 percent of its $100 million funds in the grain. China, Egypt, Vietnam and India, accounting for more than a third of global rice exports, curbed sales this year to protect domestic stockpiles. The World Bank in Washington says 33 nations from Mexico to Yemen may face ``social unrest’’ after food and energy costs increased for six consecutive years. The Philippines, which imports about 15 percent of its rice, is tightening controls over domestic sales and buying more overseas. The government’s rice tenders are in April and May. “I am leading the charge’’ against any officials and businessmen who divert supplies or distort the price of the staple food, Arroyo said in a televised speech today. “The need to avert social tensions from high food prices’’ has made “food sufficiency even more urgent,’’ Abah Ofon, a soft-commodities analyst with Standard Chartered Plc, said in a report yesterday. Food importers may not be able to meet their needs because of the export limits, Dubai-based Ofon said. more...
  • ’Silent’ famine sweeps globe WorldNet Daily (April 1, 2008) - Rice, fertilizer shortages, food costs, higher energy prices equal world crisis. From India to Africa to North Korea to Pakistan and even in New York City, higher grain prices, fertilizer shortages and rising energy costs are combining to spell hunger for millions in what is being characterized as a global “silent famine.” Global food prices, based on United Nations records, rose 35 percent in the last year, escalating a trend that began in 2002. Since then, prices have risen 65 percent. Last year, according to the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization’s world food index, dairy prices rose nearly 80 percent and grain 42 percent. “This is the new face of hunger,” said Josetta Sheeran, director of the World Food Program, launching an appeal for an extra $500 million so it could continue supplying food aid to 73 million hungry people this year. “People are simply being priced out of food markets. ... We have never before had a situation where aggressive rises in food prices keep pricing our operations out of our reach.” The WFP launched a public appeal weeks ago because the price of the food it buys to feed some of the world’s poorest people had risen by 55 percent since last June. By the time the appeal began last week, prices had risen a further 20 percent. That means WFP needs $700 million to bridge the gap between last year’s budget and this year’s prices. The numbers are expected to continue to rise. The crisis is widespread and the result of numerous causes – a kind of “perfect storm” leading to panic in many places:
    • In Thailand, farmers are sleeping in their fields because thieves are stealing rice, now worth $600 a ton, right out of the paddies.
    • Four people were killed in Egypt in riots over subsidized flour that was being sold for profit on the black market.
    • There have been food riots in Morocco, Senegal and Cameroon.
    • Mexico’s government is considering lifting a ban on genetically modified crops, to allow its farmers to compete with the United States.
    • Argentina, Kazakhstan and China have imposed restrictions to limit grain exports and keep more of their food at home.
    • Vietnam and India, both major rice exporters, have announced further restrictions on overseas sales.
    • Violent food protests hit Burkina Faso in February.
    • Protesters rallied in Indonesia recently, and media reported deaths by starvation.
    • In the Philippines, fast-food chains were urged to cut rice portions to counter a surge in prices.
    • Millions of people in India face starvation after a plague of rats overruns a region, as they do cyclically every 50 years.
    • Officials in Bangladesh warn of an emerging “silent famine” that threatens to ravage the region.

    According to some experts, the worst damage is being done by government mandates and subsidies for “biofuels” that supposedly reduce carbon dioxide emissions and fight climate change. Thirty percent of this year’s U.S. grain harvest will go to ethanol distilleries. The European Union, meanwhile, has set a goal of 10 percent bio-fuels for all transportation needs by 2010. “A huge amount of the world’s farmland is being diverted to feed cars, not people,” writes Gwynne Dyer, a London-based independent journalist. He notes that in six of the past seven years the human race has consumed more grain than it grew. World grain reserves last year were only 57 days, down from 180 days a decade ago. One in four bushels of corn from this year’s U.S. crop will be diverted to make ethanol, according to estimates. “Turning food into fuel for cars is a major mistake on many fronts,” said Janet Larsen, director of research at the Earth Policy Institute, an environmental group based in Washington. “One, we’re already seeing higher food prices in the American supermarket. Two, perhaps more serious from a global perspective, we’re seeing higher food prices in developing countries where it’s escalated as far as people rioting in the streets.” Palm oil is also at record prices because of biofuel demands. This has created shortages in Indonesia and Malaysia, where it is a staple. more...

  • Food shortages loom as wheat crop shrinks and prices rise Times Online (February 24, 2008) - The world is only ten weeks away from running out of wheat supplies after stocks fell to their lowest levels for 50 years. The crisis has pushed prices to an all-time high and could lead to further hikes in the price of bread, beer, biscuits and other basic foods. It could also exacerbate serious food shortages in developing countries especially in Africa. The crisis comes after two successive years of disastrous wheat harvests, which saw production fall from 624m to 600m tonnes, according to the United Nations’ Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO). Experts blame climate change as heatwaves caused a slump in harvests last year in eastern Europe, Canada, Morocco and Australia, all big wheat producers. Booming populations and a switch to a meat-rich diet in the developing world also mean that about 110m tons of the world’s annual wheat crop is being diverted to feed livestock. Short term pressures have compounded the problem. Speculative buying by investors gambling on further price rises has further pushed up prices. Though shortages are often blamed on the use of land for biofuel crops, the main biofuel cereal crop is maize, not wheat. Farmers have brought millions of acres of fallow land into production and the FAO predicts that the shortages could be eliminated within 12 months.
  • World food stocks dwindling rapidly, UN warns International Herald Tribune (December 18, 2007) - In an “unforeseen and unprecedented” shift, the world food supply is dwindling rapidly and food prices are soaring to historic levels, the top food and agriculture official of the United Nations warned Monday. The changes created “a very serious risk that fewer people will be able to get food,” particularly in the developing world, said Jacques Diouf, head of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization.
  • Global food crisis looms as climate change and fuel shortages bite Guardian Unlimited (November 3, 2007) - Empty shelves in Caracas. Food riots in West Bengal and Mexico. Warnings of hunger in Jamaica, Nepal, the Philippines and sub-Saharan Africa. Soaring prices for basic foods are beginning to lead to political instability, with governments being forced to step in to artificially control the cost of bread, maize, rice and dairy products. Record world prices for most staple foods have led to 18% food price inflation in China, 13% in Indonesia and Pakistan, and 10% or more in Latin America, Russia and India, according to the UN Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO). Wheat has doubled in price, maize is nearly 50% higher than a year ago and rice is 20% more expensive, says the UN. Next week the FAO is expected to say that global food reserves are at their lowest in 25 years and that prices will remain high for years.
  • Wheat prices reach record level BBC News (August 24, 2007) - Wheat prices have hit record highs on global commodity markets, bringing the threat of rising bread prices. Bad weather in key grain growing areas such as Canada and parts of Europe has limited supplies as demand has risen, sparking fears of a supply shortfall. Surging prices are also expected to have widespread fallout for consumers. While it will mean higher bread prices, it could also trigger an increase in meat and dairy prices as farmers battle to pass on rising feed costs. Global wheat stockpiles will slip to their lowest levels in 26 years as a result, official US figures predicted earlier this month. more...
  • Taiwan stung by millions of missing bees (April 26, 2007) - Taiwan’s bee farmers are feeling the sting of lost business and possible crop danger after millions of the honey-making, plant-pollinating insects vanished during volatile weather, media and experts said on Thursday. Over the past two months, farmers in three parts of Taiwan have reported most of their bees gone, the Chinese-language United Daily News reported. Taiwan’s TVBS television station said about 10 million bees had vanished in Taiwan. A beekeeper on Taiwan’s northeastern coast reported 6 million insects missing “for no reason,” and one in the south said 80 of his 200 bee boxes had been emptied, the paper said. Beekeepers usually let their bees out of boxes to pollinate plants and the insects normally make their way back to their owners. However, many of the bees have not returned over the past couple of months. more...
  • Vanishing honeybees mystify scientists (April 22, 2007) - Go to work, come home. Go to work, come home. Go to work -- and vanish without a trace. Billions of bees have done just that, leaving the crop fields they are supposed to pollinate, and scientists are mystified about why. The phenomenon was first noticed late last year in the United States, where honeybees are used to pollinate $15 billion worth of fruits, nuts and other crops annually. Disappearing bees also have been reported in Europe and Brazil. Commercial beekeepers would set their bees near a crop field as usual and come back in two or three weeks to find the hives bereft of foraging worker bees, with only the queen and the immature insects remaining. Whatever worker bees survived were often too weak to perform their tasks. If the bees were dying of pesticide poisoning or freezing, their bodies would be expected to lie around the hive. And if they were absconding because of some threat -- which they have been known to do -- they wouldn’t leave without the queen. Since about one-third of the U.S. diet depends on pollination and most of that is performed by honeybees, this constitutes a serious problem, according to Jeff Pettis of the U.S. Agricultural Research Service. “They’re the heavy lifters of agriculture,” Pettis said of honeybees. “And the reason they are is they’re so mobile and we can rear them in large numbers and move them to a crop when it’s blooming.” Honeybees are used to pollinate some of the tastiest parts of the American diet, Pettis said, including cherries, blueberries, apples, almonds, asparagus and macadamia nuts. “It’s not the staples,” he said. “If you can imagine eating a bowl of oatmeal every day with no fruit on it, that’s what it would be like” without honeybee pollination. more... | Earth Changes |
  • Dry Australia Faces Food Imports (April 21, 2007) - Australia’s Prime Minister says some food may have to be imported, if there is no water for farm irrigation in the Murray-Darling Basin this year. John Howard has said that without heavy rain in the coming weeks there may be no permits given for irrigating agricultural land. He says it might be possible in some areas to import the foodstuffs that would otherwise come from Australian sources. And Australia’s National Farmers Federation also says some foods may need to be imported if there is not good rain.
  • Crops Worldwide Threatened by New Wheat Fungus (April 13, 2007)


The following theory put forth by MattW: This destruction of Damascus is even talked about in the 3rd Seal:

Destruction of Damascus? - Amos 1 has a passage concerning coming judgment on Damascus. Many are aware that Syria, has attacked Israel in 3 major wars since Israel became a nation again in 1948. Could it be that Syria, will actually attempt a 4th time to do great harm to Israel and in turn be dealt this extreme judgment from the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? 

4 Strikes - You’re Out? (link broken)

Revelation 6:5,6
And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black1 horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances2 in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure4a of wheat for a penny3, and three measures4b of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine5.

1. Black = Death and mourning.
2. Pair of Balances = Judgment from God.
3. Penny = Lacking
4. Wheat and Barley = Wheat means survive and Barley means destroyed. See God’s judgment of Egypt in Exodus.
4a. A Measure = One part out of four.
4b. Three Measures = Three parts out of four.
5. Oil and Wine = Israel

“You have been judged by God and were found lacking. 3/4 of you will be destroyed and 1/4 will survive. Do not harm Israel.” This means the destruction of Damascus is the opening of the 3rd Seal. It causes the 4th Seal to open and causes Russia to attack Israel at a later time.[Gog/Magog]

Seal 4 (Green Horse)

Revelation 6:7,8
And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

paleG5514 means greenish (verdant (Green with vegetation; covered with green growth. Lacking experience or sophistication; naive), dun-colored)

Rider’s name is Death, and HadesG86 (the place (state) of lost departed souls) accompanies him.

A powerful capacity (token of control, delegated influence, superhuman, potentate) was given to them over 1/4 part of the earth, to kill with cabers (long and broad cutlass), hunger, death, venomous beastsG2342 of the soilG1093 (symbolic for chemical weapons?)

I don’t believe this passage is saying that 1/4 of the earth will be killed with cabers. I think it’s saying 1/4 of the earth will use cabers, hunger, death, and germ warfare (venomous beasts of the soil) to kill people on the earth.

Possible interpretation?

Radical Islam: Rise of the 12th Mahdi (false prophet)?

I recommend watching this documentary to understand the basic belief of Islam and how common words don’t always have common meaning across languages.




  • Meet the Pale Horse by Steve Snider - A closer look at what the words may mean.
  • The popular way to kill is beheading with the sword as we have seen in Iraq many times videotaped for us. It is also the favorite way of killing believers in the great tribulation.
  • Their symbol is a green crescent moon and star.
  • They have shown a distinct lack of sophistication in their aggressions and are generally riotous crowds that love conflict, looking for the next reason to riot. Example1 <movie  | Example2 <movie 
  • Their declared goal is world domination and non-Muslim extermination. Even the news couldn’t cover up the Iranian statements. Watch Farewell Israel to see why there is miscommunication and how it will bring about our downfall because of our blindness to it. (Yes we’re being played by the master of deception from all sides. Yeshua is coming though for them that love Him. Share the blessed hope you have in your faith in Christ. This website is for His glory and the edification of those who desire to become perfect in selfless love for God and others.)
  • The Muslim faith comprises about 20% of the earth’s population (as of 2000) currently and steadily rising to 25%. (Nearly 1 in 4 people worldwide is Muslim, report says - October 12, 2009) Not all Muslims will take up arms I’m sure when the time comes, but I’m sure there are going to be more than 25% in the world then too. Muslims are also moving all around the world integrating into other nations and bringing their religion with them. Their goal is a world of only Muslims which means they aggressively push their belief. If push comes to shove, the ultimate goal will be reached in other ways, but it will be reached (that is their belief) They are killing Christians right now in many places because they are Christians.
  • They are the Eastern leg of the old Roman empire (Istanbul/Constantinople)
  • The terrorist blatant lack of regard for life means the introduction of chemical, biological, and nuclear arsenals to everyday fighting could be a soon possibility.
  • Where there is a Muslim dictatorship, there is not freedom.

Seal 5 (Souls Under The Altar) Great tribulation?

Revelation 6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

I believe the fifth seal marks around the time of the abomination of desolation, when the antichrist will go after the nation of Israel as described in Revelation 12. Those who are killed are told to wait a little while for their fellow servants to be killed as they had. It is at or before the sixth seal that we must be removed by harpazo (harpazo) from the earth. This is because the wrath of God comes at least ½ hour after the sixth seal...

Seal 6 (Sun/Moon/Star Event)

The 6th seal, like the abomination of desolation, is a very pivotal time in end-time prophecy. It marks the time just before God’s wrath is poured out on the earth. It’s also important to understand the great tribulation according to scripture in order to fully understand how the sixth seal fits into end-time prophecy.

Revelation 6:12-17
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Some say that these people hiding in caves and mountains don’t understand when God’s wrath is coming and that may be a valid point, but scripture has more than the testimony of the children of disobedience. Notice in the following passage that we have the people going into caves for fear of the Lord. This is the time when He rises “to shake terribly the earth.”

Isaiah 2:12-21
For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. And the idols he shall utterly abolish. And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

But it is not just the earth that is shaken at this time.

Hebrews 12:23-29
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: For our God is a consuming fire.

Isaiah 13:6-13
Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man’s heart shall melt: And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames. Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
[Sixth Seal]
For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
[Day of the Lord: God’s Wrath]
And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

Now from Isaiah 13, we see that in the day of God’s fierce anger, He will shake the heavens with His wrath. This is the same thing described in Matthew and Mark as happening just after the sixth seal. I believe the “shaking of the heavens” is almost a 3½ year period of time as the 7 trumpets and 7 thunders and 7 bowls come upon the children of disobedience dwelling on the earth. So we see that Isaiah 13:13 connects the wrath of God with the shaking of the heavens. But can we know the timing of the sixth seal in the timeline of prophetic events?

Matthew 24:29-31
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [wrath of God Isaiah 13:13] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: [2nd coming in glory] and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13:24-27
But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

With Matthew 24:29, the events of the sixth seal are placed immediately after the time of Jacob’s trouble, about 30 days after the abomination of desolation in accordance with the time specified for Israel in Matthew 24:15-28, Daniel 12:1, and Jeremiah 30:4-7. Click the link for a more in-depth Biblical analysis of the great tribulation. We also can see that the events of the sixth seal are before the shaking of the heavens, which is the wrath of God.

An interesting possibility was brought to light by David W. Lowe, author of Earthquake Resurrection. His premise is that the resurrection of the just at the harpazo is accompanied by an earthquake. Given that scripture says our gathering to Christ is after the man of sin is revealed at the abomination of desolation, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4, and before the wrath of God, the timing of the sixth seal with its accompanying earthquake would fit in this timeline. In addition, the fact that the children of disobedience are going to be caught unawares because the day of the Lord comes like a thief, it would make sense then that we wouldn’t know the day or hour of the resurrection/harpazo if it coincides with this time of sudden destruction. While we won’t be in darkness considering this time, we still do not know the day or hour of it.

1 Thessalonians 5:1-11
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Matthew 24:32-36
Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

We may not know the day or hour, but we’re not in darkness about the times. Could it be that the reason we aren’t told the day or hour is because our resurrection coincides with this event that is to catch the world off-guard? Biblically, the events all coincide, so it would seem to make sense.

Un-Blinding of Israel

And what about Israel? Yeshua said that Israel would be blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. Romans 11:25 He also said that the elect of Israel obtained it but the rest were blinded by God. We can see this in Luke 19:41-44 when at the Triumphal entry, Yeshua blinded Israel because they didn’t know the time of their visitation, the presenting of Himself as Meshiach Nagid. Zechariah 9:9 He also said that through Israel’s blindness, salvation would come to the Gentiles, or non-Israelites. One more thing He said was that we, the Gentiles, would provoke Israel to jealousy. To date I am unsure of any instance where the nation of Israel has been liked much by the world. Israel has been persecuted by the world as prophesied would happen. I think Israel is less trusting of anyone enough to be jealous of them.

However, the focus of their jealousy were not just Gentiles, but those to whom the salvation came due to this rejection of Yeshua, Christians. Now Israel has a bad history with those who call themselves Christians. This has given them little trust for “Christians” in general from what I understand. However, if the Vatican truly stood for Truth in God’s Word, many of their practices would not exist and it would not be possible to mingle with the world in uniting religions.

So why would Israelites be jealous of Christians? I believe the answer comes at the sixth seal. Most scripture about the day of the Lord is from the Old Testament. They know this and this event will be a big deal. I believe also that the harpazo is/will be known of enough that word would spread when the true Christians were suddenly gone. God’s wrath is about to be poured out. Is this the fullness of the Gentiles when Israel is un-blinded and provoked to jealousy from the catching away of those that love Yeshua upon their escape? Only 144,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel are sealed and all hell is breaking loose. I know personally I don’t want to be on the earth at that time either. If there was an escape and I missed it, I would be jealous. Those left behind will still be saved if they accept Yeshua, but there will be a putting to proof, Revelation 3:10, during the events of God’s wrath and the hatred and murder of Jews and Christians for the next 3 1/2 years. Daniel 7:25

Other Scriptures about the timing of the sixth seal:

I think the other places describing the sun/moon/star event fall in line with the sixth seal description. Specifically because almost all of them are mentioned in relation to the day of the Lord...

  • Isaiah 2:10-21 - This connects the day of the Lord, the people of earth hiding in caves and mountains for fear of the Lord, and the Lord rising to shake the earth as the same time. (The 7th seal is only ½ hour of silence in heaven, the sixth seal and first trumpet can be the same day.)
  • Isaiah 13:10-13 - 6th Seal is before the shaking of the heavens (day of the Lord = God’s wrath)
  • Joel 2:1-11 - The signs come before the day of the Lord (mentioned in context to the signs)
  • Joel 2:23-32 - 6th Seal is before the day of the Lord (God’s wrath)
  • Joel 3:11-16 - 6th Seal is before the shaking of the heavens (day of the Lord = God’s wrath = shaking of heavens: Isaiah 13:10-13)
  • Matthew 24:29 - 6th Seal is immediately after the great tribulation (time of Jacob’s trouble) Matthew 24:15-22
  • Mark 13:24-25 - The signs come immediately after the tribulation of Mark 13:14-20
  • Luke 21:25-26 - The signs come before the shaking of the heavens (Isaiah 13:10-13)
  • Acts 2:16-21 - The signs come before the day of the Lord (Quoting Joel 2)
  • Revelation 6:12-17 - The sixth seal

See how this connects to a pre-wrath harpazo of the bride of Christ.

  • Global Warming & The Day of the Lord - There is much controversy today about global warming and mans cause of it. However given the historical data of cyclical warming and cooling periods and scientific understanding of what affects Earth’s climate, I believe there is another set of reasons ranging from solar activity to underwater volcanic activity. What could be causing these earth changes? Learn a little about the electrical nature of the universe and the data that could explain what is really going on...
  • The Sixth Seal and Planet X - Is the sixth seal actually a planetary body in large orbit coming between the earth and the sun? The description seems to fit pretty well. Check it out!

Seal 7 (Silence for ½ Hour)

Revelation 8:1,2
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.

Here we see the final seventh seal opened. This is the last seal that needs to be broken in order to open the scroll. As I mentioned before, the sequence of the seals, trumpets, and bowls are evident from scripture. Notice that the seven angels don’t even receive their seven trumpets until after the seventh seal is broken. The half an hour is probably the time it takes to unroll the scroll and give out the trumpets to the seven angels before the wrath of God comes ½ hour later. In other words, the sixth seal and God’s wrath will most likely happen on the same day. This answers the question of how the people of earth could see God’s wrath coming if it is supposed to come suddenly like a thief, it’s only separated by ½ hour at the least.

I think the Holy Spirit guided the order given in Revelation for a reason and we should take it at face value. I believe the seventh seal isn’t concluded in Revelation 6 after the sixth seal because of this very reason. God wants to make it clear that the order is sequential. By placing the seventh seal two chapters ahead and just before the handing out of the trumpets, God makes it clear that the trumpets cannot occur until all seven seals are broken. It should also be noted that the Revelation 7, the chapter that separates the sixth and seventh seal, has this to put into the sequence:

Revelation 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

This multitude is in heaven. We know this because the elders and beasts are there too. This is not on earth. Verse 14 says, “These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” Please read the great tribulation study and Matthew 24:29-31 study for more on that. This is the fulfillment of the promise of Luke 21:34-36 and that to the church of Philadelphia as well.

Revelation 3:10 So let’s move on to the trumpets, the beginning of the wrath of God poured out on them that dwell on the earth, the children of disobedience.

Revelation 8:3-5
And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

The Seven Trumpets:

The Day of the Lord and the Wrath of God begin

Trumpet 1 (1/3 Trees)

Revelation 8:6-7
And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Red Rain - This phenomena was brought to my attention listening to Coast to Coast AM on October 25, 2007. Given the descriptions in the Bible regarding a rain of blood beginning at the first trumpet bringing God’s wrath, I thought I should put together some information regarding this. I suspect it will be blood, but some other odd things have fallen from the sky including blood. Some more cases can be read here. Is this what John saw at the first trumpet? I don’t know, but for the record I thought I would share. One thing of note discussed was that at high temperatures, this stuff in the water making it red started multiplying. Perhaps you know more about this, let me know!

In Kerala (2001) - “Heavy downpours occurred in which the rain was coloured red, staining clothes with an appearance similar to that of blood.”

Trumpet 2 (1/3 Sea)

Revelation 8:8,9
And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

The End: This video is a good visualization of “stars falling from the sky” or “hail and fire” and “a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea.” I believe this is what will be seen immediately following the time of Jacob’s trouble when the sixth and seventh seals are opened. This is the first and second trumpets being blown, the beginning of the wrath of God, the day of the Lord.

From the movie Deep Impact: 0:02:47

Trumpet 3 (1/3 Waters Wormwood)

Revelation 8:10,11
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Trumpet 4 (1/3 Sun/Moon/Stars Smitten)

Revelation 8:12
And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

The Three Woes

Revelation 8:13
And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

Trumpet 5 (Abaddon [Apollyon] From Bottomless Pit) Woe One

Revelation 9:1-11
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

There is a place on the earth where no matter which direction you go, you are going South. Likewise there is another place where no matter what direction you go, you are going North. These are the North and South poles respectively. I believe this same concept is expressed with the term “bottomless pit.” Where is the only place you cannot go down, only up? In a 3-dimensional sphere, the very center. No matter which direction you went, you would be going up. I believe the bottomless pit of the Bible agrees with the hollow earth theory. In addition, if there is a core of magma, the idea of the lake of fire would seem to fit. In Revelation 9, the fifth trumpet of God’s wrath is sounded and an angel unlocks the gateway to the bottomless pit. From this comes an army of demon locusts with the power to torment for five months those without the seal of God on their foreheads. They are led by their king, Abaddon, or Apollyon. Could this be the ancient god of Greek mythology Apollo?

Trumpet 6 (Euphrates Angels) Woe Two

Revelation 9:13-21
And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

The Seven Thunders

We don’t know much about these because John is specifically told not to write what he saw.

Revelation 10:1-4
And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

Before the seventh trumpet is blown, the second woe ends.

Revelation 11:3-14
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

I find it interesting how each woe are the final three trumpets. Except the second woe isn’t described as passing until after the two witnesses are resurrected and caught up even though the sixth trumpet is described several chapters earlier. I think this helps define the timing of the two witnesses as ending their 1260 day witness sometime around the sixth seal.

Trumpet 7 (Days of the Voice [Kingdoms are the Lord’s]) Woe Three

Revelation 10:5-7
And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

This passage tells us that the seventh trumpet is sounded over an extended period of days, plural. The mystery of God will be finished, the return of Christ in glory, before the seventh angel stops sounding.

Revelation 11:15-19
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

This isn’t the end though, all seven bowls must be poured out before Christ returns in glory and before the mystery of God is finished. This is because God’s wrath is not poured out after Christ returns in glory. He returns at Armageddon, which isn’t even started to gather until the 6th bowl. The way this is resolved is that all seven bowls are poured out in quick succession while the seventh angels is sounding over the period of days up until Christ’s return in glory with His wife. Revelation 19:7-8; 11-14

As you can see above, there’s no widespread destruction elaborated in the seventh trumpet compared to the other trumpets, just an earthquake and great hail. This is one of three woes, separated out of the bunch for their severity. But we know that the seventh trumpet is sounded over a period of days. Revelation 10:7 We also know that the seven bowls are the last plagues. Revelation 15:1 This is primarily why I believe that the seventh trumpet actually contains the seven bowls. In other words, during the days when the seventh trumpet is being sounded, the seven bowls are poured out in quick succession like birth pangs going from the seals to trumpets to bowls, they are more intense and closer together. This would also explain why the seventh trumpet is the third woe. When it sounds perhaps within a matter of days the wrath of God in the last seven bowls will be poured out and completed. So when the seventh bowl is done, it is finished and the seventh trumpet is also finished. Babylon is destroyed in one day and then Christ returns in glory.

The Seventh Trumpet and the Last trump

There are some who view the seventh trumpet as the last trump, which calls us to the clouds in the harpazo. Here’s what the seventh trumpet and the last trump have in common:

  • They’re both trumpets
  • The seventh trumpet is the last of the trumpet judgments sounded

That’s where I believe the connection ends. Neither of these are definitive enough to state that they are the same trumpet. Here’s some reasons why I don’t believe this is a correct assessment:

  • The “last trump” associated with our harpazo is the “trump of God.” Are all seven trumpets handed to the angels the “trump of God?” Are just one of the seven trumpets God’s trump? Can angels blow God’s trumpet or is it called the trump of God because God blows it?
  • 1 Corinthians 15:52 states when the trumpet sounds the dead will be raised incorruptible. Revelation 20:4,5 says that resurrection is after Christ has returned and Satan is bound. There’s no mention of a trumpet at that point. So is the seventh trumpet after Satan is bound and after Christ has returned in glory?
  • Matthew 24:30,31 does have a trumpet and a gathering of the elect. However, what is commonly overlooked is from where they’re gathered from, heaven. Somehow some of the elect were already in heaven at this point.
  • Luke 21:34-36 states that we are going to escape the wrath of God and stand before the Son of man. If Christ doesn’t return until the end and God’s wrath comes before the end, then in order to stand before Him, we must be taken into heaven. This fits perfectly with the above scripture saying that heaven is from where we’re gathered. The harpazo is clearly delineated in scripture as pre-wrath.

I don’t believe the two common points above based on assumption can stand up to the scriptural evidence contradicting the assumption. It’s the same thing for the “first resurrection” term that’s often assumed to mean that no resurrection happened before it. I go into the Biblical explanation here.

The Seven Bowls (Vials):

Filling up (completing) of the Wrath of God

Revelation 15:1
And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled upG5055 the wrath of God.

Filled up (G5055)
teleō (tel-eh’-o)
From G5056; to end, that is, complete, execute, conclude, discharge (a debt): - accomplish, make an end, expire, fill up, finish, go over, pay, perform.

Revelation 16:1
And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

Bowl 1 (Mark of the Beast Sores)

Revelation 16:2
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

Bowl 2 (Sea Turns To Blood)

Revelation 16:3
And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

Bowl 3 (Rivers Turn To Blood)

Revelation 16:4-7
And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

Bowl 4 (Scorching Sun)

Revelation 16:8,9
And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

What could this be? I believe it may be a solar flare timed with a weakening of the earth’s electromagnetic field enough to let the sun’s plasma strike the earth’s surface.

Isaiah 30:25-28
And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound. [Zechariah 13:9] Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire: And his breath, as an overflowing stream, shall reach to the midst of the neck, to sift the nations with the sieve of vanity [self-focus]: and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing them to err. [Bridle: History of the Mystery of Iniquity]

Global Warming & the Day of the Lord

How could a solar flare destroy earth?


  • Is a New Solar Cycle Beginning? - Possible peak in 2012 Science@NASA (December 14, 2007) - The solar physics community is abuzz this week. No, there haven’t been any great eruptions or solar storms. The source of the excitement is a modest knot of magnetism that popped over the sun’s eastern limb on Dec. 11th, pictured below in a pair of images from the orbiting Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO). It may not look like much, but “this patch of magnetism could be a sign of the next solar cycle,” says solar physicist David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center. For more than a year, the sun has been experiencing a lull in activity, marking the end of Solar Cycle 23, which peaked with many furious storms in 2000--2003. “Solar minimum is upon us,” he says. The big question now is, when will the next solar cycle begin? It could be starting now. “New solar cycles always begin with a high-latitude, reversed polarity sunspot,” explains Hathaway. “Reversed polarity” means a sunspot with opposite magnetic polarity compared to sunspots from the previous solar cycle. “High-latitude” refers to the sun’s grid of latitude and longitude. Old cycle spots congregate near the sun’s equator. New cycle spots appear higher, around 25 or 30 degrees latitude. The region that appeared on Dec. 11th fits both these criteria. It is high latitude (24 degrees N) and magnetically reversed. Just one problem: There is no sunspot. So far the region is just a bright knot of magnetic fields. If, however, these fields coalesce into a dark sunspot, scientists are ready to announce that Solar Cycle 24 has officially begun.
  • Earth’s Magnetic Field May Be About to Go into Reverse (May 10, 2007) -  The weather in space is controlled by events at the centre of the Earth. A pity, then, that the magnetic field generated there may be about to go into reverse. GREENLAND was discovered without the use of magnetic compasses. The Viking longboats that arrived here in 982 relied on the stars and the sun to maintain their orientation. But it was the compass (a Chinese invention) that enabled later European navigators to bestride the world. It was the compass, too, which revealed that the Earth itself has a magnetic field and thus led to the first serious question about the planet’s internal structure: what is down there that generates this field? Such a question is not merely academic. Besides directing compasses, the Earth’s magnetic field reaches out into space to direct the flow of the solar wind around the planet—forming a structure called the magnetosphere (depicted above). When the wind hits this field it creates a shock wave known as the bow shock. Most of the protons and electrons of the wind go round this shock wave, and lots of dangerous radiation from the sun is thus diverted away from the Earth. There is, however, a growing body of evidence that the Earth’s magnetic field is about to disappear, at least for a while. The geological record shows that it flips from time to time, with the south pole becoming the north, and vice versa. On average, such reversals take place every 500,000 years, but there is no discernible pattern. Flips have happened as close together as 50,000 years, though the last one was 780,000 years ago. more... I believe this could be part of the cause for the fourth bowl of God’s wrath: Revelation 16:8, “And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.” With a weakened magnetic field around the earth and a solar flare directed at the earth, we would see plasma from the sun scorch the earth.
  • Solar flares will disrupt GPS in 2011 (September 29, 2006) - Navigation, power and communications systems that rely on GPS satellite navigation will be disrupted by violent solar activity in 2011, research shows. A study reveals Global Positioning System receivers to be unexpectedly vulnerable to bursts of radio noise produced by solar flares, created by explosions in the Sun’s atmosphere. When solar activity peaks in 2011 and 2012, it could cause widespread disruption to aircraft navigation and emergency location systems that rely heavily on satellite navigation data. Particularly intense solar activity occurs roughly every 11 years due to cyclic changes to the Sun’s magnetic field – a peak period known as the solar maximum. Solar flares send charged particles crashing into the outer fringes of the Earth’s atmosphere at high velocity, generating auroras and geomagnetic storms. more... According to the dates arrived at through the merging of the 14,000 days, Rosh Hashanah, and the exact day prophecies of Daniel and John, this time frame of 2011, 2012 is exactly when the fourth bowl would be poured out.
  • Sun’s Activity Increased in Past Century, Study Confirms (September 26, 2006) - The energy output from the Sun has increased significantly during the 20th century, according to a new study. Many studies have attempted to determine whether there is an upward trend in the average magnitude of sunspots and solar flares over time, but few firm conclusions have been reached. Now, an international team of researchers led by Ilya Usoskin of the Sodankylä Geophysical Observatory at the University of Oulu, Finland, may have the answer. They examined meteorites that had fallen to Earth over the past 240 years. By analyzing the amount of titanium 44, a radioactive isotope, the team found a significant increase in the Sun’s radioactive output during the 20th century. Over the past few decades, however, they found the solar activity has stabilized at this higher-than-historic level.
  • Scientists Warn of Immense Solar Storm Threat (May 4, 2006) - While obviously not the fourth bowl, it is representative of the increased threats from just this kind of event.
  • The Kill Shot Ed Dames - On November 4, 2003, an enormous solar flare sent an intense burst of radiation towards earth. The flare overloaded detectors on multiple solar monitoring satellites, interrupting the flow of data that ordinarily enables scientists to estimate the size of such events. Post event analysis revealed that the flare was the largest ever recorded in modern history and the flare had crossed the path which earth takes around the sun. Ed Dames, a remote viewer, says he has seen this event in remote viewing. While I don’t desire to dabble in these things (because they can open your mind to the demons out there and let in negative influence), it did strike me as a possibility that the power from the sun to scorch people could be explained in this kill shot put forth by Ed Dames.

Bowl 5 (Seat of the Beast)

Revelation 16:10,11
And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

Bowl 6 (Kings of East & Gathering To Armageddon)

Revelation 16:12-16
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

This bowl is evidence that the bowls are poured out completely before the seventh trumpet is done sounding because Christ’s return is to Armageddon, but the armies aren’t even gathered until the 6th bowl. Here’s some more information via e-mail from John Reynolds that may have to do with the sixth bowl too. (June 30, 2007)

Hi everyone, this is a post from the Koinonia House forum that I placed a couple of days ago.  I have known about this for a couple of years, but I thought given the prophetic implications of this, all of you would definitely like to know about it…  In Christ, John

I am not sure if I have posted this yet, but I found out about this a couple of years ago. Turkey has been constructing Dams for a long time and at one point in 1991, in order to fill their reservoirs, they nearly turned off the Euphrates river entirely. In fact, had they wanted to, they could have, but they honored an agreement with Syria to allow X amount of gallons per hour to flow. It is called the Southeastern Anatolia project and it shows how the prophetic river could very easily be dried up to foment the invasion of the 200 million man army... It is also a striking example of another piece of prophecy than can easily be fulfilled at any moment as they already have the capability to do so...



In the 1930s, Mustafa Kamal Ataturk, the founder of the Turkish Republic, enacted policies to survey Turkey’s rivers for energy as a means to meet the nation’s growing electricity demands. Gauging stations along the Euphrates and Tigris rivers were established, and geological, topographical, and groundwater surveys were conducted to maximize both the surface and subsurface water resources within the basins. By the 1950s, reconnaissance surveys were extended to Turkey’s 26 different river basins to develop energy and irrigation potential within all river basins.

During the 1960s and 1970s, separate water resources plans to develop the Euphrates and Tigris rivers were drawn, which in 1977 were merged into one water resources development project called the Southeast Anatolian Project. In the 1980s, the Keban and Karakaya Dams along the upper Euphrates river were developed and the Southeast Anatolia Project was later expanded into a multi-sector project that included not only irrigation and hydropower production, but also urban and rural infrastructure, forestry, education, and health sectors. The multi-sector GAP Master Plan was finalized in 1989 and a separate GAP Administration was established. Construction of the Ataturk Dam was completed in 1990 and irrigation for the GAP started at the end of 1994, when one of the twin Sanliurfa Tunnels from the Ataturk Dam was opened.

GAP’s projected completion date is scheduled for 2010, provided current financial difficulties and inflation do not further delay the project. When the GAP is completed, 28.5 percent of the total water potential of the country will be brought under control through facilities along the Euphrates and the Tigris rivers. GAP will irrigate nearly 1.7 million hectares of land, or 20 percent of Turkey’s total irrigable land. Annual energy production from GAP will produce 22 percent of Turkey’s total energy production with an installed energy capacity of 7476 MW.


Syria and Turkey: Many Roots to the Recent Quarrel

Syria and Turkey now say that the agreement signed by them late on October 20 has ended the feud between them, which had led to a Turkish military buildup along the Syrian border (See the Last Issue). The Turks are declaring the agreement a victory for their position, and the beginning of peaceful cooperation with Syria — if Syria fulfills the obligations it has undertaken.

Based on initial reports of the text of the minutes arrived at after two days of negotiations, Syria has agreed that it will provide no support for the Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK), the Kurdish movement fighting the Turkish government. Arms, logistics, and financial support are all prohibited, and Syria will no longer permit ’Abdullah “Apo” Ocalan, the head of the PKK (See the Profile in the Last Issue) to reside in Syria. Turkish Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz said that Ocalan had been in Moscow for about a week after leaving Syria during the crisis, and the Turkish press carried reports that he is living in the Moscow suburb of Odintsovo. (Turkey asked Russia to extradite him; Russia said it had no idea where he was.)

The Syrian-Turkish confrontation was unusual in several ways. Though the matters in dispute are of long standing, there was no visible provocation forcing Turkey to act at this time. Rather, the change of Turkish Chief of Staff in August may have been in part the reason for the confrontation now, since new Chief of Staff Hüseyin Kivrikoglu is known to be a hardliner on the PKK.

The Syrian-Turkish confrontation also came in the context of growing concern in the Arab world over the Turkish-Israeli strategic alignment, which Syria has long considered directly aimed at Damascus.

But Syria and Turkey have quarreled for decades over a variety of outstanding issues, of which the PKK is only the latest and, perhaps, developed as a function of Syria’s attempt to counterbalance Turkish dominance in the other areas of rivalry. There are three major questions at issue: Syria’s latent, not actively pursued but not dropped either, claim to the Hatay region, a dispute dating to the pre-World War II era; the very active and important dispute over the waters of the Euphrates and the Turkish Atatürk Dam; and finally, Syrian support for the PKK, now apparently abandoned. (It should be noted, however, that Syria has made similar undertakings before, and that it is by no means certain that the agreement will be honored in full.)

This Dossier examines the varied roots of the Syrian-Turkish rivalry.

Syrians have long claimed their country to be the “beating heart of Arabism”, the cradle of modern Arab nationalism. In the late Ottoman Empire, many of the early theorists of Arab nationalism were Syrian (or Lebanese), and during the Arab Revolt in the First World War, some talented Syrian officers from the Ottoman Army went over to the Arab side. The modern Turkish Republic, the rump remaining from the dismembered Ottoman Empire, borders only two Arab states: Syria and Iraq. Neither border has ever been truly quiet; and of course Turkey now frequently enters northern Iraq in pursuit of PKK Kurdish guerrillas.

Given this history and the geopolitical rivalries of the region, it is perhaps not surprising that Syria and Turkey have a number of areas of disagreement. What is perhaps more interesting is the fact that these disagreements have never led to actual war, though there have been shooting incidents from time to time, aircraft shot down a time or two, and that sort of problem.

Clearly, too, of course, there are not just these immediate causes for quarrel, but geopolitical factors as well: Syria was aligned loosely with the Soviet Bloc in the Cold War while Turkey was in NATO; today Syria is alarmed by the Turkish-Israeli alignment.

This Dossier looks at the major issues in roughly the reverse order in which they appeared: first at the cause of the recent crisis, the PKK issue; secondly at the water issues on the Euphrates, and finally the longstanding, if not terribly active, dispute over the Hatay (Alexandretta).

The Problem of the PKK

The Ba‘ath Party ruling Syria claims to be an Arab nationalist movement. Why would an Arab nationalist movement support a revolutionary Marxist movement of Kurdish separatists, when Arab Syria itself has a Kurdish minority? The answer is not terribly difficult within the context of the Middle East: in all the countries which have Kurdish minorities (mainly Iraq, Iran, Turkey and Syria, though with some in Armenia and Azerbaijan as well), there has long been a pattern of supporting Kurdish movements which destabilize your neighbor, while naturally not encouraging one’s own Kurds in such ideas.

Syria’s quarrels with Turkey stem, as this Dossier seeks to show, from many roots. Of them all, it may be argued that the issue of the PKK is the only one in which the provocation largely originated on the Syrian, rather than the Turkish, side. Syria has used the PKK as an instrument to counterbalance Turkish gains elsewhere. Turkey’s military forces are much superior to Syria, and a conventional military balance is not really achievable, especially with Syria preoccupied with Israel on the Golan Heights.

Syria is not the sole supporter of the PKK. Iraq has also been involved in the past, and today (when the Iraqi government has no control in the north), the PKK has sometimes fought aligned with Jalal Talabani’s Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) against Mas‘oud Barzani’s Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP). Turkey also charges that Greece has maintained training camps for the PKK.

But Syria has been the country whose activities with the PKK most infuriated the Turks. The exact nature of Syria’s support for the PKK depends on which side one chooses to believe. Syria basically denies that it has been a major source of support. Turkey insists that there are training camps in Syria as well as in Lebanon’s Baqa‘a Valley, the latter under the effective control of the Syrian security forces. In addition, “Apo” Ocalan has long lived in Damascus much of the time. Although there have been few, if any, clear instances of operations directly across the Syrian-Turkish border by the PKK (they usually strike from Iraq), Syria’s role in training, supplying, and equipping the PKK has long been alleged by the Turks.

There have also been reports that Syria has sought to encourage its own Kurdish minority to support the PKK, perhaps in an attempt to direct any latent separatism among Syrian Kurds externally.

Under the agreed minutes signed late on October 20, Syria reportedly undertook to close the PKK training camps not only in Syria but also in Lebanon, to bar Ocalan from returning to Syria from his current stay in Moscow, and to prevent all cross-border operations, and cease any logistical, financial, or arms support to the PKK anywhere.

The Turks are trumpeting the agreement as a full Syrian backdown, which, if it is carried out, it would indeed appear to be. On the other hand, Syria has undertaken commitments about the PKK before, only to quietly resume activities when attention was not longer focused on it. It is not impossible that it will do so again.

On the other hand, it must also be remembered that Syria, in backing down under the threat of military strikes, is not really giving up any crucial interest of its own. Like other states with Kurdish populations, it has no intrinsic interest in encouraging Kurdish separatism. Its support for the PKK was always a tactical effort aimed at Turkey, not a committed support of the PKK.

Euphrates Water

If the Kurdish PKK is not a crucial national interest for Syria, water is. Like every other country in this generally arid region, burgeoning populations and limited supplies of fresh water have made water a resource more precious than oil.

And to hear the Syrians and other Arabs tell it, the Turks are trying to turn off the Euphrates. In 1990, in fact, they did virtually that.

The Euphrates rises in eastern Anatolia (Turkey), where its two major component streams come together. It then winds through Syria into Iraq, where it joins with the Tigris to form the Shatt al-‘Arab, flowing into the Arab/Persian Gulf. (The Tigris also rises in eastern Turkey, but enters Iraq directly without passing through Syrian territory.)

The issue of sharing the Euphrates water has always been a contentious one between Turkey and its downstream neighbors, with Iraq, the last in line, generally claiming its share to have been plundered by both Turkey and Syria. When Syria built the big Asad Dam on the Euphrates, the Iraqis complained; naturally, when Turkey began its huge Atatürk Dam as part of its Southeast Anatolia Project (GAP), a master plan involving 22 dams and 19 power plants, both downstream neighbors began complaining anew.

In 1985 Turkey and Syria signed a provisional accord under which Turkey guaranteed a flow of 500 cubic meters per second to Syria. Syria has pushed for a permanent accord, and has continued to complain about the GAP.

The issue of water rights is an extremely complex one, and something of a new cottage industry in Middle East studies. A brief report such as this cannot assess the various conflicting claims of the impact of the GAP on the Euphrates water resources; Syrian and Turkish estimates often differ dramatically.

One of the more delicate moments occurred in 1990 when, to fill the Atatürk Reservoir, Turkey cut off the flow of the River at the dam for a period of 30 days, 13 January-12 February. There was considerable uproar that Turkey was cutting off the Euphrates entirely, but in fact Turkey had not only increased the flow prior to the cutoff, but the cutoff in no way affected the water from tributaries entering the Euphrates below the dam. The Turks also say that the total amount released averaged out, over a period of several weeks, to above the 500 cubic meters a second committed to Syria.

The Atatürk dam and another big dam, the Keban, have their flow regulated by further downstream dams, of which one, the Birecik Dam not far from Syria, is being built currently.As if the water issues were not complex enough, Turkey has counterclaims against Syria concerning dams on the al-‘Asi River, the ancient Orontes, which rises in Lebanon, passes through Syria, and reaches the sea through the Turkish province of Hatay.

And that brings us, like the Orontes, to the oldest of the disputes between Turkey and Syria.

The Hatay

(Sanjak of Alexandretta)

In the extreme northeast corner of the Mediterranean, the Taurus Mountains join the sea, separating Anatolia from the Levant. There, on the Gulf of Iskenderun, lies the port city of Iskenderun (known historically as Alexandretta), and in the mountains inland, Antakya, the ancient city of Antioch. During the Ottoman Empire the region was administered as the Sanjak of Alexandretta. Like most borderlands, it has long been ethnically mixed, Arab and Turkish, with Armenians as well. Historically, Antioch was usually considered a part of Syria, looking inward to the other cities of the Levant, while Alexandretta was a more cosmopolitan port.

In the carving up of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I, France won the inclusion of the Sanjak of Alexandretta in its League of Nations Mandate over Syria-Lebanon. French policy was to maintain separate administrations for ethnic or religious groups with a geographic identity, and thus in addition to Christian Lebanon the Druze mountain of Syria, the ‘Alawite areas around Latakia, and the Sanjak of Alexandretta were given special status.

In the Treaty of Lausanne of 1923, Turkey had renounced any claim to its former territories. But in 1936, when Syria was slated for independence under the mandate, Kemal Atatürk approached France over the question of Alexandretta. Turkey insisted that a majority of its population were Turks, and that it should revert to the Turkish Republic. France insisted that the Sanjak would maintain its own autonomy within independent Syria.

But this was 1936, and France remembered that Turkey had joined the Central Powers in World War I. In an effort to keep Turkey from drifting towards Germany again, efforts were made to accommodate the Turks. The matter was referred to the League, and Syrian independence delayed. In May of 1937 the League recommended an autonomous Sanjak which would control its own internal affairs, but whose external affairs would be under Syria; it would be demilitarized.

Arab nationalists insisted there were 125,000 Arabs, Christian and Muslim, and Armenians in the Sanjak and only 85,000 Turks; the Turks insisted there was a Turkish majority. A French census found a Turkish population of 46%, a minority but the largest single group in the population. Neither side readily accepted those numbers. But France and Turkey subsequently agreed to a Turkish “preponderance” of influence in the region, which in late 1938 elected a Turkish President and renamed itself the State of Hatay.

Since Syrian independence had been postponed, Hatay was technically still under French mandate. In June of 1939, with European war imminent, France signed an agreement on mutual assistance with Turkey and separately ceded the Hatay to Turkey. Turkey took over, and pressured non-Turks who would not accept Turkish citizenship to leave.

Syria has never recognized the incorporation of the Hatay into Turkey. There is still an Arabic-speaking population in the region, though Turks are now the solid majority. Syria does not actively press the claim, and in fact during the recent crisis, Turkish President Süleyman Demirel explicitly warned Damascus not to raise the Hatay issue. On the other hand, Syrian maps frequently show the entire region as part of Syria. (Even Syrian official road maps have been known to do so, doubtless causing confusion for tourists suddenly finding the Turkish border in the way.) Turkey regularly protests the publication of such maps. Though the claim is latent, it has never been renounced by Syria, which holds that France had no right to cede the territory to Turkey under the mandate. When other issues arise between Turkey and Syria, the old quarrel over the Hatay is likely to be resurrected, as Demirel obviously feared might occur this time.

HERE IS ANOTHER INTERESTING EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE... NATO actually petitioned Turkey to shut off the Euphrates entirely in 1991 according to this writer... Link excerpt:

The Tigris-Euphrates is regularly cited as a flashpoint for a possible war. How can anyone induce Turkey, probably the most powerful state in the region, not to pursue its own interests to the detriment of its downstream neighbours, Iraq and Syria?

Everybody keeps talking about the Tigris-Euphrates as a potential flashpoint, but what’s really interesting is that in 1991, Nato actually asked Turkey to shut the flow of the Euphrates towards Iraq. But the government refused and basically said, “You can use our air space and bases to bomb Iraq, but we won’t cut off their water.”

Since the 1970s, Turkey, Syria and Iraq have had an implicit agreement, which Turkey continued to respect even while building the dams. And despite the rhetoric, Syria and Iraq both recognize that they benefit from those dams because they even out the river’s flow and extend their farmers’ growing season. Turkey wants to be seen as a fair, good neighbour for several reasons, including Nato pressure as an ally, internal politics and attempts to join the European Union. The difficulty lies in making the implicit agreements explicit.

Bowl 7 (It Is Done!)

Revelation 16:17-21
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Which of the seals, trumpets, and bowls are God’s wrath?

Some of this will be review of the details above, but I don’t think we should ignore the events that occur in the seals, trumpets, and bowls and which of these are God’s wrath. The seals are explanations of events happening resulting from Christ opening the seals. This provides the understanding that He is in control. His breaking the seal initiates events that transpire on earth.

The first four seals are four horsemen that do things on the earth. God’s wrath comes from Him while these descriptions seem to be describing happenings on the earth that lead up to God’s wrath.

  1. Seal 1: White horse - Conquering rider
  2. Seal 2: Red horse - rider given power to take peace from the earth (Rider takes peace from the earth, not God.)
  3. Seal 3: Black horse - famine on earth (I think this may have to do with our genetic manipulation mixed with weather changes and governmental controls...not entirely sure though.)
  4. Seal 4: Green horse - Rider is death and Hades follows him. 1/4 of the earth under their power to kill with sword, hunger, death, and beasts of the earth (wasn’t from God’s wrath, but death and Hades)
  5. Seal 5: Souls under altar killed because of the Word of God (wasn’t from God’s wrath)
  6. Seal 6: This event is more of a sign than wrath brought on the earth. An earthquake does happen that will probably kill some, but no worse than has already been happening. (Can we define this as God’s wrath?)
  7. Seal 7: ½ hour silence in heaven (I don’t see anything in this that could be considered God’s wrath)

That’s the seals. We should remember that we’re not appointed to God’s wrath, but there really isn’t anything here that appears to be God’s wrath, just Christ initiating events showing He is in control. The actual aggressors result from un-restraining certain people, groups, etc.

Remember also that the seven seals are all done before the trumpets are handed out. Revelation 15:1 Now lets examine what the trumpets do and see if that is God’s wrath.

  1. Trumpet 1: Hail, fire mingled with blood cast to earth burning 1/3 of the trees and all green grass.
  2. Trumpet 2: Meteor hits ocean killing 1/3 of sea life and 1/3 of ships as well as turning 1/3 of it to blood.
  3. Trumpet 3: Wormwood star falls from heaven making water bitter and killing many.
  4. Trumpet 4: 1/3 of sun, moon, stars smitten. (as opposed to sun black as sackcloth, moon blood red, and stars falling, not darkened)
  5. Trumpet 5: Woe 1 - Demon locusts from the bottomless pit and Abaddon (Apollyon = Greek god Apollo?)
  6. Trumpet 6: Woe 2 - Loose 4 angels bound in Euphrates River (1/3 of men killed by them)
  7. Trumpet 7: Woe 3 - Kingdoms of this world are become kingdoms of the Lord.

How is the seventh trumpet the third woe? There are lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail, but that doesn’t seem like much compared to the first two woes. I believe the answer comes from scripture:

Revelation 10:5-7
And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

The seventh trumpet is sounded over a period of days plural. I believe that the third woe are the seven bowls, the filling up of God’s wrath.

Revelation 15:1
And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

These seven bowls are the seven LAST plagues. It would follow then that there were plagues before them (7 trumpets) and that these seven bowls occur after any previous ones. I believe they are actually the third woe, part of the seventh trumpet being poured out in quick succession during the days of the seventh trumpet.

  1. Bowl 1: Mark of the beast sores
  2. Bowl 2: EVERYTHING dies in the sea as the whole sea is turned to blood. (as opposed to 1/3 in the 2nd trumpet)
  3. Bowl 3: Rivers turn to blood
  4. Bowl 4: Scorching sun.
  5. Bowl 5: beast’s kingdom full of darkness.
  6. Bowl 6: Frog spirits gather armies to Armageddon.
  7. Bowl 7: It is done: Earthquake greater than any earthquake since man has been on the earth and a plague of hail exceedingly great

I believe all this shows that the seals are not God’s wrath, but that God’s wrath begins with the censer and trumpets and ends with the seventh bowl. I believe what I have presented shows that these are sequential except for the seventh trumpet which contains the seven bowls, but it does begin to sound before the bowls. Here is a chart of how I see the seals, trumpets, and bowls: